关于金钱的收入和支持

孟仲玄

http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/feature_gold

谈一点透露的信息：
1. 大商人貌似只能和城邦国家进行贸易了？
2. Machu Picchu 是一个新奇观，可以带来金钱产出的增加
3. 所有的资源（尤其是黄金），当有人工作时每回合都能带来金钱产出
4. 现在商路直接产出金钱

cmr

单位战略化后，城市产能需要用建筑来消耗。

沙漠胡杨

建筑维护费意味着需要更多钱，所以所有的资源当有人工作时每回合都能带来金钱产出

西艾薇.C.Kyou

由于金钱不能投入科研，只好挖掘出更多用钱的办法。现在看来全新的大致这么几点：
1.扩张地块（可能主动用得最多？）
2.建筑维护费和道路维护费（和兵种维护费一样，量力而行吧）
3.购买单位、建筑、奇迹（不再需要普选这么后期的条件了？）

西艾薇.C.Kyou

大商人去城邦执行任务不知道是不是怕玩家看到AI的大商人入境就消灭了

阿菜

一大清早就有新消息

ikariam

我来贴一下原文吧 ：

August 2, 2010

Gold

Gold! Gold can be used to buy you many a-thing in Civilization V. It may be true that money can’t buy you love, but it can purchase a nuclear submarine armed with nuclear missiles, and that’s not too shabby.

Fans of past games in the series will notice that gold plays a larger role in Civilization V, especially in the early game.

SPENDING GOLD

I think spending gold is more fun than earning it, so let’s talk about what gold can get you first:

-You can extend your civilization’s territory by purchasing individual tiles. The cost of each tile will vary based on a variety of factors, such as how rough the terrain is and whether it’s across a river.

-Units and buildings both have “maintenance costs” that must be paid every turn. These maintenance costs are dependent upon the difficulty level at which you’re playing.

-You can spend gold to purchase units, buildings, or Wonders in a city. Once you purchase an item, it will be immediately constructed in the city, and the amount deducted from your treasury. Note that “projects” such as the Utopia or Manhattan Projects cannot be purchased.

-You can “upgrade” obsolete units, turning them into newer, more powerful models (For example, once you learn Iron Working, you can upgrade any Warrior units you possess into Swordsmen.) Each upgrade costs some gold – the more powerful the upgrade, the more expensive it will be.

-Each tile of road that you construct requires maintenance, much like units and buildings do.

-If you want to improve your relationship with a city-state, one way to do so is to give it some gold. Increasing amounts of gold may be given for larger boosts to friendship.

-And finally, you can exchange gold with other civilizations for any number of reasons – trading it for resources, for example, to get the other civ to make peace with you, or to bribe the civ to attack a third. Gold is extremely useful in negotiations.

EARNING GOLD

Of course, you must first earn some gold before you can spend it. There are a multitude of ways to earn gold:

-These tiles provide gold when you citizens work them: Coasts, Oceans, Rivers, Natural Wonders, and Oases.

-All luxury resources (especially gold!) provide gold when worked.

-Constructing a trading post improvement in a tile increases its gold output.

-Many buildings – markets, banks, etc. – increase a city’s output of gold, especially if you assign merchant specialists to them.

-Some Wonders provide or increase a city’s output of gold. Machu Picchu and the Colossus are prime examples.

-If a city is connected by a road and/or harbor to your capital city, that city has a “trade route” with the capital. Each trade route is worth a certain amount of gold each turn, determined by the size of the two cities.

-You’ll earn gold each time you disperse a Barbarian Encampment.

-An ancient ruin may provide gold when it is explored.

-A city-state may give you gold when you first meet.

-Pillaging enemy improvements will give you a modest amount of gold.

-You may gain a bunch of gold when you capture a city from another civilization or city-state.

-A Great Merchant can perform a “trade mission” in a city-state. The Merchant is expended and you get lots of gold.

[ 本帖最后由 ikariam 于 2010-8-3 10:14 编辑 ]

ikariam

金钱

金钱！钱在文明五中可以用来买许多东西。诚然它未必能买来爱情，不过它可以买来装了原子弹的核潜艇，不赖吧。

文明系列的老玩家会注意到，金钱在文明五中扮演了更为重要的角色，特别是在游戏早期。


花钱

我想花钱比赚钱更有乐趣，所以先来说说钱能怎么花吧：

-你可以通过购买独立的地块来扩展本文明的疆域。购买每个地块的花费取决于多个因素，比如地形有多恶劣和是否跨河。

-单位和建筑都有需要每回合支付的“维护费”。维护费用的多寡取决于你所玩的游戏难度。

-你可以在城市中花钱购买单位、建筑或是奇迹。一旦购买，所买的东西就能立即在城中被建造出来，花费则会从你的国库中扣去。要注意的是，像乌托邦和曼哈顿计划这样的“工程”是不可以购买的。

-你可以“升级”过时单位，把它们换成新的、更强的型号（比如，当你学会冶铁术之后，你可以把勇士单位升级成剑士）。每次升级都要花一些钱——升级跨度越大，花费越贵。

-你建造的每一格道路都需要维护费，就同单位和建筑一样。

-如果你想与城邦增进友谊，有一种途径就是赠它钱币。随着友谊加深，进一步增加友谊的花费就越多 :)

-最后，你可以为任意多种原因与其它文明交换金币——比如用来交易资源、签订和平协议或是贿赂一个文明让它去攻击另一个。金钱在谈判中极其有用。


赚钱

当然，你得先赚了钱才能花。挣钱的法子多种多样：

-当你的市民在以下地块上工作时会产出金币：近海、海洋、河流、自然奇观和绿洲。

-在所有的奢侈资源（特别是金矿！）上工作会提供金币。

-在地块上建造贸易站可以提高它的金币产出。

-许多建筑——比如市场、银行等等——能增加城市的金币产出，特别是当你在其中分配商人的时候。

-一些奇迹能提供金币或是增加一座城市的金币产出。马丘比丘和巨像就是最典型的例子。

-如果一座城市由道路和/或港口与你的都市相连，那么该城就与首都有了一条“商路”。每条商路每回合提供一定量的金币，其数额由这两座城市的人口规模决定。

-每捣毁一个野蛮人窝点都能得到一些金币。

-探索古代遗迹可能带来金币。

-与城邦初遇时，它可能给你见面礼。

-抢掠敌方地块设施会带来适量金币。

-攻占其它文明或城邦的城市可以挣到一大笔。

-大商人可以到城邦去做生意。之后大商就升了天，而你拿到许多许多钱。

[ 本帖最后由 ikariam 于 2010-8-3 11:13 编辑 ]

sw39ym

-当你的市民在以下地块上工作时会产出金币：近海、海洋、河流、自然奇观和绿洲。

到底是在河流两岸，还是说河流又成了一种地形

yzy5626

-你可以“升级”过时单位，把它们换成新的、更强的型号（比如，当你学会冶铁术之后，你可以把勇士单位升级成剑士）。每次升级都要花一些钱——升级跨度越大，花费越贵。

以前不是说部队自动升级么～怎么又变成要花钱升级了～

沙漠胡杨

在地块上建造贸易站可以提高它的金币产出,没有村子了么

water_junket

然后会出现铺满贸易站的金融型城市嘛

ikariam

来自civfanatics论坛上2k greg发布的更多文明五的新消息：

So what happens when you run out of gold?

Whoops; I thought I had included that in the article. If you are out of gold, and your income is negative, it comes out of your research. Basically for every 1 gold deficit you have, you lose 1 research point.
如果经济出现负增长，赤字部分将从科技中扣除。

A naval unit within two tiles of a port city will blockade its harbor, which cuts off its trade route. It's a lot easier to cut off trade routes in Civ 5 than it was in previous games because of the fact that far fewer roads will be built.
海滨城市两格内的海军单位可以封锁该城的港口（即海洋商路）。因为文明五中道路少多了，所以封锁商路变得容易多了。

Can I still build gold in my cities after I reach a certain tech such as currency?? (I didn't see that listed on the ways to get gold.)

Yep, your city can produce "Wealth" which turns 10% of the production in to gold income.
城市可以选择生产金币，将10%的生产力转化为金币。

Greg, since you're being unbelievably responsive, what about trade routes with foreign cities? Is that possible?

I believe there are no trade routes with foreign cities. That mechanic is only for your own cities to your capitol.
国外商路可能不再存在，商路将只存在于本国的首都与其它城市之间。

[ 本帖最后由 ikariam 于 2010-8-3 13:02 编辑 ]

guweizhou

那不是又 可以棒子压红脸了

西艾薇.C.Kyou

城市里不是最多一个兵么，哪里提到压红脸了？

西艾薇.C.Kyou

另外，将10%的生产力转化为金币，那剩下的90%生产力哪去了，还是意味着10:1如此亏本的转换

ikariam

显然Jon Shafer觉得打钱有点太强了，而且文明五里很有可能不需要任何制度配合就可以靠花钱来买兵买建筑，所以打钱的削弱就显得更有必要了。

沙漠胡杨

文明3 8：1（后期4：1） 文明4 1：1 文明5 10：1
差距好大

ikariam

原帖由 sw39ym 于 2010-8-3 12:14 发表
-当你的市民在以下地块上工作时会产出金币：近海、海洋、河流、自然奇观和绿洲。

到底是在河流两岸，还是说河流又成了一种地形   

这个2K Greg也回答了，河流没有变成地形，这里指的是沿河地块。

orochi2k

意思就是以后大家CTRL-W之后只要改钱就可以了么~